Subject: APPN / HPR MIBs SIG + SNA NAU MIB WG minutes from AIW 10

From: "R.E. (Robert) Moore (254-4436)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 10:31:04 EDT

I *tried* to send these out a couple of weeks ago, before I went on
vacation, but our Internet gateway ate them.

Bob
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1.0  MEETING

The meeting took place on Monday, March 25, as part of AIW 10.  It was a
joint meeting of the AIW's APPN / HPR MIBs SIG and the IETF's SNA NAU
MIB WG.  The discussions of the APPN, HPR, and DLUR MIBs were chaired by
the MIBs SIG chair, Paul Golick of IBM.  The discussion of the SNA NAU
MIB was chaired by the SNA NAU MIB WG chair, Bill Kwan of Jupiter
Technology.

The next joint meeting of the two groups was tentatively set for late
May.  The meeting will take place in RTP, NC, with other sites tied in
by telephone.  The purpose of the meeting will be to continue
discussions of the HPR and DLUR MIBs.

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2.0  ATTENDEES

o   Paul Golick, IBM
o   Basil Treppia, Datacom Systems, Inc.
o   Laura Petri, IBM
o   Brian Jewell, 3COM
o   Wayne Clark, Cisco
o   Bill Kwan, Jupiter
o   Mike Banatt, Bay Networks
o   Bob Clouston, Cisco
o   Mark Regan, Cisco
o   Jim Cobban, Nortel
o   Ray Bird, IBM
o   Bob Moore, IBM
o   Don McGinley, Bay Networks
o   Gary Dudley, IBM
o   Vivian Tseng, Cisco
o   Tom Winn, Cisco

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3.0  APPN MIB

The SIG recommended, and the AIW plenary approved, progression of the
APPN MIB to CP.  The following set of changes were agreed to:

o   Add references to the lower-layer MIBs to the front and back matter.

o   Expand the description for the appnPortLsRole object, as proposed on
    the mailing list.

o   Remove the appnLsTargetPacingCount object, which had previously been
    flagged for removal.

o   Rework the representation of HPR support for links and local TGs.

o   Add an appnLsBfNceId object.

o   Introduce MIB conformance groups for the HPR base, for the HPR RTP
    tower, for the HPR control flows over RTP tower, and for the HPR
    Boundary function.

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4.0  HPR MIB

The SIG recommended, and the AIW plenary approved, AD-as-amended status
for the HPR MIB.  The following set of changes were agreed to:

o   Add an hprNceInstanceId object.

o   Remove the hprNceEnvId object.

o   Remove the HprTimeStamp TEXTUAL-CONVENTION, and replace it with
    TimeTicks or DateAndTime as appropriate.

o   Remove the hprRtp*LocCpName objects.

o   Flag the following objects for removal after the next review cycle:

    -   the hprRtp*ForAnrString objects
    -   the hprRtpType object
    -   the entire hprNclTable table

o   Make the hprRtpRscv object read-write, to allow a Management Station
    to trigger a path switch.

o   Change the index for the hprRtpStatusTable to

                    { hprRtpStLocNceId,
                      hprRtpStLocTcid,
                      hprRtpStIndex }

o   Validate various enumerations, clarify and validate various
    descriptions.

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5.0  SNA NAU MIB

The following set of changes were agreed to:

o   Add references to the lower-layer MIBs to the front and back matter.

o   Add Bob Clouston's name to the list of authors in the
    MODULE-IDENTITY section, and to the back matter.

o   Remove the snaNodeSscpSuppliedName object, since it duplicates the
    snaPu20PuName.

o   Clarify that the snaPu20Table applies not only to type 2.0 nodes,
    but also to type 2.1 nodes that are presenting a type 2.0 node
    appearance.

o   Add an snaPu20OperState object, with the same four states as the
    snaNodeOperState object.  For an actual type 2.0 node, these two
    objects will always return the same value.  For a type 2.1 node that
    presents a type 2.0 node appearance, however, they may return
    different values.

o   Add an object to the snaMgtTools subtree to control the generation
    of traps.  This read-write object will have four values:

    -   sendNoTraps
    -   sendNodeTrapsOnly
    -   sendLuTrapsOnly
    -   sendAllTraps

    It will belong to a new mandatory conformance group,
    snaMgtToolsAdminConfGroup.

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6.0  DLUR MIB

It was decided to re-open the AIW-approved DLUR MIB, for changes to
bring it into alignment with the other SNA MIBs, and with the DLUR
architecture.  The following set of changes were agreed to:

o   Improve the linkage to other MIBs, by adding an object to return the
    DLUR's node name, and one to return the link name for a link to a
    downstream PU.

o   Index all the tables by names, as in the other SNA MIBs.

o   Add an sscpSuppliedPuName object, which will not be a table index.

o   Add two objects representing the global defaults for primary and
    backup DLUS.  A requirement was raised, however, for a whole table
    of backup DLUS names, both globally and on a per-PU basis.  There
    are still questions to be resolved here.

o   Investigate adding an object to represent support of the
    RECEIVE_TDU_TP.

o   Investigate adding objects for LU configuration information.

o   Investigate adding objects for LU-LU session statistics.

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7.0  SCHEDULE FOR FURTHER MIB DEVELOPMENT

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7.1  APPC MIB

Review by IETF Network Management Area Directorate complete; should be
submitted to IESG very shortly for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

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7.2  APPN MIB

April 96      Post -01 draft and get MIBs SIG / SNA NAU MIB WG consensus
              on it.

May 96        Submit to IETF Network Management Area Directorate for
              review.

June 96       Submit to IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

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7.3  SNA NAU MIB

May 96        Post -01 draft and get SNA NAU MIB WG consensus on it.

June 96       Submit to IETF Network Management Area Directorate for
              review.

July 96       Submit to IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

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7.4  HPR AND DLUR MIBS

early May 96  Distribute updated drafts for MIBs SIG / SNA NAU MIB WG
              review.

late May 96   Interim joint meeting of SIG and WG (by telephone), to
              review comments on the MIBs.

early June 96 Distribute drafts for AP review to MIBs SIG / SNA NAU MIB
              WG.

mid June 96   Request electronic AP for the MIBs from the AIW.

late June 96  Post -00 drafts for CP review by MIBs SIG.

July 96       Request CP for the MIBs at AIW 11.

late July 96  Post -01 draft and get MIBs SIG / SNA NAU MIB WG consensus
              on it.

August 96     Submit to IETF Network Management Area Directorate for
              review.

August 96     Submit to IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

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7.5  EBN MIB

Work with the EBN architects to develop a MIB.  Schedule is still TBD,
but it's unlikely that any work will begin until after AIW 11.